Legislature(2007 - 2008)BUTROVICH 205

05/01/2007 01:30 PM Senate TRANSPORTATION


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= SB 136 MUNICIPAL ROAD SERVICE AREAS
Heard & Held
HB 185 MUNICIPAL ROAD SERVICE AREAS
Heard & Held
* SJR 7 OPPOSE CHANGES IN FED AVIATION LAWS
Heard & Held
HJR 18 OPPOSE FED AVIATION FUEL TAX INCREASE
Heard & Held
          HJR 18 OPPOSE FED AVIATION FUEL TAX INCREASE                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KOOKESH  announced the  consideration  of  HJR 18.  [CSHJR
18(TRA) was before the committee.]                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:08:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SONIA CHRISTENSEN,  staff to Representative Johansen,  sponsor of                                                               
HJR  18,  said  that  the  resolution is  in  opposition  to  the                                                               
provisions in  the Federal  Aviation Administration  (FAA)'s Next                                                               
Generation Transportation System Reform Act.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:08:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  COWDERY moved  to adopt  the  proposed Senate  committee                                                               
substitute  to  HJR  8,  labeled   25-LS0830\L,  as  the  working                                                               
document of the  committee.  There being no  objection, version L                                                               
was before the committee.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CHRISTIANSEN repeated  her  statement  regarding the  bill's                                                               
opposition  to  the  FAA Next  Generation  Transportation  System                                                               
Reform  Act.  Because of  Alaska's  geography  the state  depends                                                               
uniquely  and heavily  on  aviation for  transport  of goods  and                                                               
people. The  proposed legislation  will make  this all  much more                                                               
expensive;  the  FAA should  not  have  the proposed  power  over                                                               
Alaska's airports.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:10:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  COWDERY   commented  that  the  first   version  of  the                                                               
resolution related to jet airplanes.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS. CHRISTIANSEN  explained that the changes  were recommended by                                                               
Senator Olson's office.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:11:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
GINNY  AUSTERMAN, staff  to Senator  Olson, sponsor  of companion                                                               
bill SJR 7, explained that  Senator Olson's office requested that                                                               
propeller-driven and rotor-equipped aircraft  be specified in the                                                               
resolution.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:11:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI  asked  if jet-driven  aircraft  are  being                                                               
excluded from the resolution.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. AUSTERMAN  replied that jet-driven aircraft  are specifically                                                               
included in the federal legislation.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI  asked  if  there is  a  reason  jet-driven                                                               
aircraft are being excluded.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. AUSTERMAN said that she couldn't answer.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KOOKESH said that there were testifiers available.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:12:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEE   HANSON,  Executive   Director   of   the  Alaska   Airman's                                                               
Association, said that the association  is opposed to the federal                                                               
act,  and explained  why airplanes  are so  vital to  Alaskans in                                                               
terms of everyday  life. The proposed federal act  will mean that                                                               
flying will become  too expensive for many people who  rely on it                                                               
and will negatively affect flying-related businesses.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:15:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR COWDERY asked if Ms.  Hanson had the committee substitute                                                               
before her.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
She replied that she didn't.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  COWDERY   said  that  the  sponsor   could  explain  the                                                               
differences.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:16:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CHRISTIANSEN  said  that  the   CS  adds  specific  language                                                               
addressing the types of planes affected.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. HANSON said that no increase in  fuel tax is a good thing for                                                               
Alaska, no matter the sort of plane.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:18:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ANDREW  CEBULA, Executive  Vice-President  of Government  Affairs                                                               
for the Aircraft Owners and  Pilots Association (AOPA), said that                                                               
the association urges the passage  of the resolution; the federal                                                               
proposal is not  good for the state of Alaska  and its pilots and                                                               
it will be  expensive and will reduce state  control of airports.                                                               
He added that  the user fees for the current  aviation system are                                                               
sufficient for covering its costs.  Currently one doesn't have to                                                               
pay  a fee  to  fly; the  FAA  wants to  assess  fees simply  for                                                               
flying. It will  put congress in a reduced  position of authority                                                               
over FAA  expenditures. He mentioned  that the federal  bill will                                                               
cut airport spending  by a million dollars,  and Alaskan airports                                                               
shouldn't have  to compete with  airports across the  country for                                                               
funding. He  commented that Alaska Representative  Don Young does                                                               
not support the federal act either.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:22:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  WILKEN  asked if  Mr.  Cebula  is  not against  the  FAA                                                               
initiative, but simply the way it is funded.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. CEBULA replied that he is only  opposed to the way the act is                                                               
funded.  The  association has  worked  closely  with testing  the                                                               
Capstone   aviation  program   in  Alaska.   The  Department   of                                                               
Transportation  inspector   general's  office  agrees   that  the                                                               
improvements  needed for  the FAA  system can  be done  using the                                                               
existing tax structure.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WILKEN asked  how the money for  needed aviation programs                                                               
will be provided if the increases are not approved.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. CEBULA  replied that  the existing system  of fuel  taxes can                                                               
provide the needed revenue for such projects.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WILKEN asked if existing  taxes could simply be increased                                                               
rather than looking for new donors.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. CEBULA replied  that the existing rates  would provide needed                                                               
revenue, and explained where current aviation taxes come from.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:25:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  WILKEN  commented  that Senator  Stevens  supported  the                                                               
Capstone program which  has been successful in  Alaska, and asked                                                               
if  Alaska is  being  selfish  in not  wanting  to pay  increased                                                               
taxes.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  CEBULA  replied that  Alaska  has  been  a great  leader  in                                                               
improving technology,  and said that  the state has  been willing                                                               
to  help  rather  than  selfish. Alaska  has  a  unique  aviation                                                               
system, and  by passing the  resolution the state is  saying that                                                               
it has concerns that would be echoed by a lot of other states.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  WILKEN said  that the  state  has benefited  a lot  from                                                               
federal money,  and that may put  it in a bind  regarding refusal                                                               
to increase taxes.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:27:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TOM  GEORGE, Alaska  representative  to the  Aircraft Owners  and                                                               
Pilots  Association, said  that  the  issue is  not  a matter  of                                                               
Alaskans not wanting to pay;  it's just that they're taking issue                                                               
with the new  process.  He explained how fees  would change after                                                               
the  act   if  it  were   passed,  and  how  they   could  expand                                                               
significantly.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
He  added  that the  Capstone  program  was important  to  Alaska                                                               
because the  state has a  higher accident  rate than the  rest of                                                               
the country,  but service charges  shouldn't be increased  at the                                                               
expense  of  aviation   safety.  Part  of  the   federal  act  is                                                               
establishing  a  board,  and   that  would  reduce  congressional                                                               
oversight. He asked that the committee support the resolution.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:31:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WILFRED RYAN,  president of the Alaska  Air Carriers Association,                                                               
said that the  users of the Alaskan air system  already pay their                                                               
fair share of  fees; the fuel tax doesn't  benefit small carriers                                                               
like those  in Alaska.  The association  opposes the  elements of                                                               
the federal act.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:34:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR COWDERY said that he would like to hold HJR 18.                                                                         

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